income inequality in this administration than any previous administration. the middle class is doing worse than it has ever done before and investor class the wealthy are doing better because of cheap money from the fed. this is the worst part. we had 1 1/2% gdp growth in the first quarter. if we slide back to recession you can't slide interest rates below zero. where do we go if the economy slides back into recession? with this government controlled economy barack obama has we're moving right before it. the fed should be audited and the fed should stop playing politics with our money supply. that is what they have done. it has been the wrong thing to do. it is hurting the american economy. [applause] and let me, add one other thing on this, be very aware now. what hillary clinton is talking about doing, if she is president of the united states is to make sure that the government gets even more involved in the economy, even more involved in making choices for everybody. you do not want that to happen. you need someone who will stand up on the stage and prosecute the case against her and prosecute it strong.

that's what i'll do. [applause] moderator: senator santorum, do you agree with governor christie. you also said that the fed should be audited but many worry that given the congressional challenges that they face, by having congressional oversight of the fed, which has been historically an independent body, you would be making the fed much more political. how would you navigate that risk? >> i agree with governor christie. i don't think you can make it anymore political than it's been. they are proteching a president that is overtaxing and overregulating, shutting down this economy and they're keeping it up like atlas trying to hold up the earth by these ridiculously low interest rates and it's hurting american seniors who are seeing no social security increases, seeing no savings. they're putting their money aside. they're getting nothing in their deposit accounts. this is hurting people who acted responsibly all in favor of those who, you know, are

speculators and those on wall street. it is not a good deal for the vast majority of responsible americans. the other thing we have with the fed they have been given way too much authority. under dodd-frank they have been given this enormous new authority. they have become almost the most powerful entity in washington, d.c. we need to repeal dodd-frank, take away authority from the fed and put them under more scrutiny. that is only part of the problem. i understand fed is interesting for business channel but for most americans the most important business is the family and we haven't really talked much about the importance of the family to the economy and ladies and gentlemens, and every single book from left to right written last couple years has said the biggest problem in america is hollowing out of the america is break down of family of middle america. we should talk about the issue, to strengthen marriage and return dads into homes in all communities. you want to talk about the communities hurting the most, the ones you see protest in, there are no dads. we need to do something about

it. moderator: thank you, senator. moderator: governor huckabee, both senator santorum and governor christie are critical of the federal reserve. also many question whether janet yellen is the right person to be running the fed. if elected president, would you keep janet yellen? >> well, my wife's name is janet. and when you say janet yelling, i'm very familiar with what you mean. [applause] but, look, i think the fed's in a big trouble because they haven't addressed the number one issue hurting americans and that's the fact that wages for the bottom 90% of the economy have been stagnant for 40 years. in 25 years after world war ii up to 1971 wages grew by 85% in this country. people were moving up in the middle class. there was a middle class. that is not happening anymore and in large measure the fed has manipulated the dollar so it doesn't have a standard. tie the dollar to something

fixed. if it will not be gold make it a commodity basket. here is what we have to do. we have to get it where people who go out there and work get something in return. if the dollar keeps fluctuating, and this is, as crazy as, is the price of bread, well the fact is, people can't get ahead. moderator: would you change leadership at the fed? >> absolutely, absolutely because what we need to do is make sure they tie the monetary standard to something that makes sense rather than to their own whims. because who is getting gut punched? it ain't the people on wall street. it's the folks on main street. they're the one whose wages have been stagnant for 40 years and the average american today has a total savings of a thousand bucks. one root canal and they're in trouble. and if their car breaks down, the same week, they're out of business. moderator: all right. governor huckabee, thank you. [applause] moderator: all right.

senator santorum, by the way, today is the 240th birthday of the united states marine corps. [applause] >> semper fi. moderator: tomorrow is veterans day. we honor and recognize all those who have fought for and served this great nation, senator. the u.s. department of veterans affairs meanwhile which provides patient care and federal benefits to those veterans as well as their families is beset by scandal. what new ideas do you have to fix the broken va health care system? >> that is very personal to me. i grew up on va grounds. i lived in apartments on va ground my entire childhood. both my mom and dad after world war ii, met at a va, married and that's where i lived. kitchen table discussions was particularly when i was growing up in the '60s and '70s was

decline of the va. when they joined in the early '50s was the top, the best and brightest coming in after the war. we believed in the cause that we fought and we invested in our hospitals to make sure our veterans who left world war ii were taken care of. but after vietnam and during vietnam that began to change, and it really hasn't recovered since. the bottom line the va is antiquated. there is no need for a va health care system as it existed after world -- why? because we have the best private health care system in the world. we needed it in 1950s, hospitals were not particularly advanced so we built the best. we didn't maintain the best. government didn't keep its promises to its veterans. what we need to do is two things. number one, to allow veterans to go to private sector hospitals for routine and ordinary care to get the best care in their community possible. [applause] and there is a place for the veterans administration. there are injuries and things

like ptsd or prosthetics, uniquely problems within the veterans community where we can develop centers of excellence within the, and replace the va with a group of centers of excellence that can help our folks who come back. moderator: senator santorum, thank you. [applause] moderator: i have a question for all of you. america's connection to the military has been increasingly fading. as a society how do we restore that sense of duty, that sense of pride that was the hallmark of the greatest generation? again i would like to ask each of you, 30 seconds each, beginning with governor jindal. >> a couple of things. first i want to echo what others said and thank the veterans that run towards danger, not away from it, so we live in the greatest country in the history of the world. every veteran should get car card and get the health care wherever they want in the private sector or public sector. i think we need to fire some of these va bureaucrats. someone should go to jail over

these scandals and it is crime that has not happened. [applause] when it comes to uniting the american people one of the things we've done to honor our veterans in louisiana, we have given thousands, i hand delivered these, medals to veterans to thank them for their service. i give you one quick example. my time is up. vietnam war veterans with tears in their eyes nobody every thanked them before. world war ii veterans, never heard of stories of their parents heroic sack cries. whatever conflict, whenever they served teach our children they live in the greatest country in the history of the world. we have a president who doesn't believe in american exceptionalism. we still do and because of those men and women in uniform. we should thank them every day, not just veterans day. [applause] moderator: governor huckabee. >> well i think thanking our veterans is a wonderful thing to do but they would sure appreciate a better paycheck. they would appreciate the fact we kept our promises to them. the men and women in uniform put on uniform of our nation, went halfway around the world.

they faced dangers on our behalf. and we promised them if they did that, when they came home, we would take care of their medical care, we would make it possible for their kids to go to college and they'd be able to buy into a home. they kept their promises to us. we have not kept their promises to them and today less than 1% of americans bo to the military for service. we're fighting wars with other people's kids in large measure. because we have not taken seriously the moral, not the monetary, the moral obligation to take care of the veterans and to keep america's promise to the ones who kept their promise to america. [applause] moderator: governor christie. >> the way to reconnect americans to the men and women in uniform is to first and foremost give them a commander-in-chief who respects military and respects everyone

who wear as uniform. [applause] starts at the top. secretary clinton says, there is no crisis at the va, that sends a long and hard message to our veterans that she doesn't get it and she doesn't respect their service. when the president of the united states doesn't back up law enforcement officers in uniform, he loses the moral authority to lead any man or woman who is in uniform. i spent seven years in law enforcement. i respect these folks. i will do so as commander-in-chief of the military. [applause] moderator: senator santorum. >> should come as no surprise to chris or anybody else that barack obama hasn't stood behind our men and women in uniform here at home because he hasn't stood behind them overseas. the rules of engagement we allowed our soldiers to go fight against put them in harm's way for political purposes. this has been the most politicized wars we've ever seen under this administration. he gets in and gets out based on what polls are saying, what

pressure he getting from groups. talk about commander-in-chief, we need a commander-in-chief who has a vision and plan how we will execute the national security of our country. commander-in-chief is not entry level position. experience matters that is why i would ask for your support as a commander-in-chief because i have the experience against the enemy that we confront to do the job. [applause] moderator: candidates, it is time for closing statements. 30 seconds. governor jindal, start with you. >> i have spent a lot of time tonight talking about the need to cut the size of government. the reason i'm doing that not just about balancing the budget with a bunch of numbers. it is because i believe in the american dream. i think president obama has done a lot of damage to our country. i think one of the worst things he has done to try to change the idea of america to be one of depep dense. a lot of politicians talk about government spending. i'm only one that actually has done it running for president. the rest of them it is a lot of hot air. if you want your paychecks going up, good paying jobs, want the government out of your lives we

have to cut the size of government. not enough to elect any republican. we've seen that we have to elect a republican that will take on establishment in both parties. i'm asking for your support. thank you. moderator: senator santorum. >> announced from factory floor in western pennsylvania. this campaign has been about two words for me, working families. working, getting people the opportunity to see those wages rise. to be on the side of the american worker so they can get good-paying jobs. that means we have to start making things in america ben. we need a president who will not just put policies in place but will stand up with the bully pulpit talk about the dignity of being a welder, the dignity of being a carpenter, about going to work and earning success and importance of families. the importance of families and fathers and mothers raising their children and committing to that so they can give children and our country best opportunity for success. working families is the key for to us win this election. [applause] moderator: governor huckabee.

>> in many ways i have i feel like i'm the luckiest guy on earth, i really do. it's a long way from a little brick rent house on second street in hope, arkansas, to this stage where i'm running for president of the united states. it is not about me, not about these guys. ought to be about you. and i have never been the favorite of the people who have the most money. but i want to be the favorite of people who still want to believe the american dream can work for them. today in our office i got a letter from a third-grader in north dakota. her name is reese. she sent $6 from her allowance. said i want to help you be president. you know i'm going to keep standing on this stage to keep fighting for one reason. because somewhere out there in north dakota and all over america there are kids like reese who need a president who will never forget where they came problem. i promise i won't. [applause] moderator: governor christie. >> i want to he will it american people that watch tonight the truth.

i saw the most desgraceful i've seen this entire campaign a few weeks ago. hillary clinton was asked, the enemy she is most proud of and she said republicans. in a world where we have al qaeda and isis, the mullahs in iran and vladmir putin, the woman who asks to one and represent all of united states says that her greatest enemies are people like you in this audience and us here. i will tell you one thing and write this down. when you elect me president of the united states, i will go go to washington not only to fight fights that need fighting not only say what i mean and mean what i say but to bring this entire country together for better future for our children and grandchildren. [applause] moderator: thank you, gentlemen. that does it, everyone for the first debate here in milwaukee. just about one hour from now, at 9:00 p.m. eastern, eight more

candidates will be taking to the stage. right now, special coverage of the republican presidential debate, live from milwaukee continues right here on fox business. [applause] ♪ lou: now they're shaking hands after passionate debate, terrific debate. i'm lou dobbs. we're coming to you live from the milwaukee theater here in milwaukee, which -- wisconsin. you saw first two of the republican presidential debates, fourth in the series. less than an hour we'll bring you the second debate of the night right here on the fox business network. the moderators will be our colleagues maria bartiromo, neil cavuto, along with "wall street journal" editor-in-chief, gerard baker. the 9:00 p.m. eastern debate features the top eight candidates according to polling.

ohio governor john kasich, former florida governor jeb bush, florida senator marco rubio, mr. donald trump, dr. ben carson, texas senator ted cruz, and ms. carly fiorina, and kentucky senator rand paul. quite a lineup. but before we get to the next debate, a few thoughts, a little analysis if we may. moderators trish regan and sandra smith will be joining me here, fresh from the debate stage. we'll be talking as well with some of the candidates here and joining me now, fox news, easy for me to say, fox news digital politics editor chris stirewalt and senior writer for "the weekly standard" steve hayes, syndicated columnist charles krauthamer. good to have you all with us. chris, that was as advertised. >> yeah. you ought to be proud of your colleagues, our colleagues. that was a hell of a good debate they put on right there.

it was substantive. it was interesting. i think that huckabee and christie had good shows. i think they demonstrated that they have a good claim to be back on the big stage when debates resume little more than a month and i thought it was a wonderful debate. lou: the idea, steve hayes, that there would be a one winner walk away, is there a single winner in your judgment? who did best and who among them the very best? >> i think both bobby jindal and chris christie had their moments but seemed chris christie was really a cut above the other candidates on the stage tonight. he sort of had effective lines but he also made a case. made a bigger case. obviously came into this debate wanting to take the argument to hillary clinton. he referenced her in virtually everyone of his answers. it played well with the audience in the theater as you saw. played well i'm certain with viewers back at home. i think he had a pretty good night tonight. lou: and charles, your thoughts? >> i think the big winner was fox business channel.

particularly given the contrast with the, shall we say with the unnamed other business channel. this was a debate meant to be about the economy. it was about the economy. it was serious. there was none of this cage of fighting that you had, at least attempted in the other debates. and i think it showed there are ways to run debates, that are not ad homonym. they are not just pure entertainment. they're actually substantive. i don't know what the ratings are going to be but i don't think you should care. this was a real debate. lou: and a real debate, we have coming up as well. chris stirewalt, steve hayes, charles krauthamer, thank you very much. coming up here next we'll talk with moderators of that first debate. sandra smith and trish regan join me next. the night is just getting started. we're less than an hour for the second debate. we'll have best moments from the first debate and there were

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lou: welcome back to the milwaukee thieler here in milwaukee, wisconsin, and fresh from the debate stage of the evening's first engagement, presidential candidate rick santorum. and i am sure you're in the spin room and there you are. good to have you with us, senator. >> thank you, your reaction. i thought you had a terrific performance and how do you feel? >> i feel great. i mean i think it was a real debate. it was great to have governor christie and governor huckabee and governor jindal there. it provided contrast where we needed it and laid out each of us, you know, our own different visions. on taxes, on, you know for me, as i closed it is all about manufacturing and working families. doing something to strengthen the manufacturing sector.

strengthen the american family. hopefully i drove the message home tonight which i think is a winning message for america. lou: i, my personal opinion is, that you communicated that concern and that passion for working families. and in all that represents. at the same time, i have to say, that the republican party with diversity of candidates tonight, 12 people, speaking on their views, their values, there seems to be a, migration, if you will, to fundamental middle class america and, concern about their well being and their futures. >> you know, four years ago when i ran, i ran against someone in the republican primary who represented in my opinion a little bit of old republican party. i tried to bring something new. lou, you know i wrote this book last year, "blue-collar conservative." going around the country. talking about a message that can

unify the country and give republicans opportunity to win wisconsins, michigans, ohios, pennsylvanias, and rewrite the map. the authentic message. not poll tested but authentic message for really unifying america. lou: great. rick santorum. thanks for being with us. great job. >> thank you very much, lou. lou: well, joining us now, after moderating the first debate of the evening, sandra smith, trish regan. i have to tell you, terrific job. it was spectacular. i mean i loved it. >> thanks, lou, that is big compliment from a guy like you. lou: from a guy like me? what do you mean a guy like me? >> what was your favorite part. lou: sheriff in town trying to enforce rules with elegance and charm and some firmness i would say. >> the debate was happening between them. it wasn't between us and them, right? we were there to ask the questions that american voters want answers to.

asking questions about the economy. lou: i couldn't spend a lot of time in the room because of obligations out here. i want to apologize to everyone for the noise. but at the same time i have to tell you we're enjoying all of the energy out here in the rotunda of the milwaukee theater. it is terrific as people are exiting your debate and preparing for the next that will be maria bartiromo and neil cavuto and gerard baker of "the wall street journal." your takeaway very quickly. we have about 10 section. >> i think tonight with all the substance we got a chance to actually hear about the tax plans they would enact, about the things they want to do to put jobs back in this country. >> it was real debate. honor to work with trish. it was an honor to ask them questions we were told by all voters they want to hear answers to so. lou: it is a delight to have you as colleagues. you did wonderful, wonderful. >> thank you, lou. >> thank you. lou: thanks so much. sandra smith and trish regan. a lot more still ahead. we're coming right back with more of the candidates.

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and that's a good thing and need to be talking about substandard issues. there are a lot of people out there in america that are hurting and they don't give a hang about all the interscholastic issues between each other. they don't care about what one republican thinks about another republican. they want to know is anybody on that stage really aware of how hard it is for them to make a living these days? lou: and how we can enjoy the countries prosperity. governor we are going to give it a hard rap here because of all this going on. governor mike huckabee good to have you with this. great job. >> thank you. lou: joining us "fox news" anchor and host a special report brett baier. if you can hear me i have a very straightforward question. do you want to define who won this debate, this first debate? >> listen first of all that may give kudos to sandra and trish and jerry. they too did they good job

asking pointed substandard questions. everybody of the moment. i think governor huckabee had the best close in bobby jindal obviously was a slasher trying to do contrast there but i do think governor christie probably had the best night because of trying to draw a contrast with hillary clinton saying hey is and don't worry about huckabee in jindal. it's hillary clinton is coming after your wallet. i think that will resonate with the republican -- lou: governor huckabee is sitting here with me and i want to say he did trump christie. christie said he was going to reduce the irs but mike decided that he was president he would get rid of the son of a gun. >> to have enough time to explain that with the fair tax is really refreshing to get into some of the weeds of these plans. lou: absolutely in breeze surprised at jindal? he was the attack dog tonight.

he caught me by surprise. how about you? >> i don't think so. he is tracking in iowa for getting those votes in iowa and trying to convince people there that he is the most conservative alternative. you know everybody has a record on that stage. i will say one other thing lou it feels a lot better with more people on the stage than 10. lou: isn't that the truth? i think he gave them a chance to really perform. brett thanks for being with us the host of special report bread air. a lot more still ahead tonight. "fox news" megan kelly joins us. she is here as the countdown to the second fox business network republican presidential debate is underway. stay with us. we are coming right back from the ever noisier milwaukee theatre in milwaukee, wisconsin. you owned your car for four years.

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lou: as you can hear, as i speak in a little louder volume than normal because of the rotunda here at the milwaukee theatre just filled with folks getting ready for the next debate and chewing over the last. my next guest moderated the first phase of the cycle this election cycle on "fox news" channel. joining us host of the keli file on "fox news," megyn kelly. megyn great to see you. we have got a barn burner of the debate coming up with these eight candidates.

what are you expecting and what you thinking about as we get ready to go into that debate? >> i'm hoping we are going to hear what we thought we are going to hear in the last debate which is substandard exchange over one of the most important topics to the voters which is the economy and what became the headline after the last debate which was the war between the moderators and the candidates completely wiped out any substandard exchange that we might have seen. there were a couple of them on the economy. people really do care so i have complete trust in neal and maria to get to the bottom of that. lou: neil cavuto and maria bartiromo and gerald baker of "the wall street journal." megyn we have to run and get ready for the debate and i know you do as well. thanks for being with us. the second republican presidential debate coming up here in just a matter of minutes. stay with us. we are coming back with much more.

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lou: we are rapidly approaching the second presidential debate of the evening and fresh from the first governor bobby jindal comes to us from the spin room.

governor, i think you had a great night. i have to say you were in attack mode tonight and you brought the goods fact after fact. how do you feel about your performance and your impact? >> thank you. i did think it went very well but here's what's really important. it's not enough to let any republican come we cannot elect a big government republican. the reason i went so hard at these other republicans they talk about cutting government spending but they haven't done it. i don't blame governor christie's are trying to change the topic or he can't defend his record. reality is we don't shrink the size of the government we will never grow the american economy. we will continue to have more americans on food stamps stagnant wages more people in poverty. that's not the american dream. i am the only one that is cut government spending. all these other guys talk about that they have never done it. lou: you have created successfully i think a division between big government republicans and government

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lou: back with us now chris stirewalt, steve hayes joining us here. after just talking to bobby jindal, the governor i mean he was on the attack. i complemented him for an energetic reformists. what do you think of the effectiveness? >> he was effective at harming chris christie. he put a dent in christie side fender over his record in new jersey which is nothing good. i don't know that jindal do that much good for himself. especially when he attacked -- and said juice box and christie seems more presidential. lou: steve case your thoughts? >> i agree with that in bobby jindal said several times republicans couldn't elect a state government republican to the white house. that's a line that is likely to stick with people but beyond that he was certainly punching hard. it's hard to see how anybody watching this debate says i need that guy to on the big stage next time.

lou: steve i want to take a second. chris bear with me here. we are going to go to the stage. the republican national committee chairman reince priebus is welcoming the crowd and it's a huge crowd. let's listen in. [applause] >> all right, thank you. we have got it all in wisconsin. we have to both houses of the legislature, the assembly led by speaker robin vos is here. [applause] our senate majority leader scott fitzgerald is here. [applause] and how about her favorite son, the new speaker of the house, paul ryan. [applause] lou: from wisconsin the speaker

of the house and reince priebus bringing them all together. this is of course reince priebus ' stomping grounds chris. i think we say he delivered the goods. >> they all have one thing in common which is they fellow wisconsinite steve hayes. that is why they are where they are today. lou: you set you up there steve. >> i miss it. i would love to be there. lou: reince priebus is leading this cycle after what was a disappointment last time. >> this has an entirely different field. this has a quality of candidates that i think is astounding. there's a diversity and medical doctor, a billionaire builder. you are talking about an ordained ministers. this is just remarkable.

>> m and i would argue the republicans need more debate. i would argue that debate regime they put in face is probably too limited. they have so much inventory and i think you are very right that they have a lot of good choices here or they have some very good choices but they have got to go through the inventory to see what's what. as you saw tonight only debates give you the wheat from the chaff. lou: steve your thoughts? >> i think that's right. if you look at the kinds of debates and the things that have emerged from the debates you see substandard i think exchanges. in some cases in spite of the moderators but you have substandard changes. you had an exchange. very clearly you have these two groups in the republican primary right now, the outsiders and then everybody else and i think you are seeing the kind of battle waged somewhat personally but also a lot of different

ideas that have to make reince priebus pretty happy. lou: well he certainly seems to be as he is welcoming everyone in, welcoming all of the elected officials and getting the audience revved up for the second debate. i personally don't think there's going to be much of a need for a revving up of the second debate. lets if we can let's go in to see what's going on in the auditorium if we could. i am told we can't get back there right now. so if we do know shortly the candidates will be entering the stage. they are going to have all of the photo opportunities with all the candidates at their podiums. give us your best guess as to who is going to breakthrough here beyond perhaps carson and trump? >> like the interplay between carson and trump is very important in this race.

we certainly care about what the second-tier, so there are three tiers in the field right now. the first tier is trump and carson and they are basically tied. then you have another two candidates tied, that's rubio and cruz and there are double digits tied to two cuban-american senator's 44 years old and then everybody also 20% of the vote. how carson and iraq's or rebukes trump for an attack will be interesting. lou: the candidates easy walking out on the stage they're getting ready for what is a very highly scheduled series of events that will take place, the photo ops i talked about as the candidates get ready to take their podiums and there will be another debate one we affectionally call a photo sprayed. elegantly worded perhaps by this what they propose to color.

photographers still have about a minute on that stage. steve hayes, there is some duopolies that have been created here it seems. carson and trump and rubio and cruz. rubio and bush rather and cruz seems to be standing by himself apart now. your thoughts about how those dynamics will work and if they may or may not have an influence on tonight's debate. >> chris' framing of the three tiers, think he's exactly right about that. i think the pressures basically onto people. one, jeb bush. does he give his key who will note doubt emerge from this debate and say this is the beginning of jeb bush's comeback? does jeb bush give his team a performance for a moment or a series of moments that allows them to make that case credibly boast to reporters in the room, two americans abroad that largent also to the donors that

he needs to keep on board. the second is donald trump. donald trump has been telling people throughout his time in the race that he is the candidate who does best on the economy. these are 90, second answers. will he be able to explain in some detail in the weeds which i believe the moderators want to spend some time men, will he be able to explain to people what he would do as president, go beyond the name-calling that we have seen from him. lou: excuse me steve, i'm sorry. i just wanted to point out the color guard is taking their place under the stage. the color guard will be followed by the national anthem. ♪

we watched, were so gallantly streaming ♪ ♪ and the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night, that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave,

o'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave ♪ [applause] lou: the national anthem, beautifully sung. the color guard withdrawing from the room. as we get ready for this second debate of the evening. this debate, eight of the candidates, maria bartiromo, neil cavuto, gerard baker, the editor-in-chief of "the wall street journal" will be moderating throughout. their focus will be on the economy and restoring prosperity to this great country. it is an exciting evening that we've been waiting a very long time for, in what has become the fourth debate, republican presidential debate of this

cycle and the second fox business/wall street journal republican presidential debate begins now. ♪ >> the road to the white house is long and winding. candidates have traveled from coast to coast, to hear from their fellow americans. faced tough questions, and laid out a vision for the country. tonight, the road leads through wisconsin. the birthplace of the republican party. the cradle of american industry. where winners are crowned, and legends are forged. abraham lincoln campaigned for pr